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On Thursday's episode of "Piers Morgan Tonight," Robert Zimmerman Jr. sat down with Piers Morgan in an exclusive, candid and revealing interview.
The brother of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer accused of shooting Florida teen Trayvon Martin, Zimmerman Jr. told Piers that Martin was the aggressor in the incident:
"My brother drew back, to grab his phone, in retreat, to call again 911, and say 'Well now this person who I lost sight of and was not pursuing, has now confronted me.' That's what he did," said Zimmerman Jr. "He never got to make that call, because he was attacked by Mr. Martin."
In explaining his family's perspective of the events from the night of February 26th, Zimmerman Jr. says that the idea his brother "pulled out a gun and shot him [Martin]" is not accurate:
"He stopped someone from disarming him and shooting him. He didn't pull out a gun and shoot him. George showed tremendous restraint," said Zimmerman Jr. of his brother. "You return force with force when somebody assaults you."
As the emotional discussion continued, Zimmerman Jr. and Morgan reviewed a 911 call from the evening of Martin's death. Listening to screams on the tape, Robert said he recognized them to be those of George:
"I know that that's his voice. It sounds just like my voice, I mean, he's my brother, that's what I sound like if I yell."
Listen to the interviews, and share your reaction, as Robert Zimmerman Jr. defends his brother, sharing another side to the story of Trayvon Martin's death.
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dear Piers:
I usually really like your program, but last night's interview with G. Zimmerman's brother, enunciating death threats, is a really bad move. First of all it will muddy the dialogue, by adding an AFTER THE FACT, irrelevant piece of "confirmation" of threat of deadly force in this case. Secondly, It just appears to be yet another strategic move of the frantic father/judge who could not control his trigger happy son and frankly it puts you in the seat of a patsy at best or worse at the ( for me) wrong side of this issue by allowing this threat message to go public in a major way.
I agree with Bill Maher: we need to abolish that INSANE stand your ground law ASAP.
I would like to see a disclaimer or clarification tonite.
Thanks Piers. Your friend Huguet
When will zimmerman be arrested??????????????????????//
Agree on your first point: We should all track down Zimmerman with pitchforks and torches, just like in the old days. Maybe a public lynching too? We KNOW what happened! KNOW it with full confidence. Anyone who says they don't know hasn't been watching TV. Because that's how you KNOW what happens, by watching TV. Sure there were unanswered questions from the start. But those are irrelevant now. The story is crystallized. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. There is no need to apply critical thinking. Yellow journalism does not exist. Confirmation bias is a non-existent liberal academic term. WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.
how does everyone know that the entire zimmerman family is racist.it is amazing how people who dont even know the family accuse all of them.where has america and the idea of innocent till proven guilty gone.this whole thing makes me sick
"Innocent until proven guilty." It is obvious you are not a black man, nor do you have a clue about our real plight. You should get a real education my friend.
Paul, if you feel this way, isn't it concerning to you that George Zimmerman stalked Trayvon? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? He hadn't seen the kid do anything but "walk slowly". That part is pretty sickening in itself.
I hope it happen to one of your children and then see what and how you would fell
Correction I mean FEEL Mr. PAUL
Yes, innocent until proven guilty. So many blacks have already convicted him. I don't think anyone should wish another person's child to die just to prove a point. I taught my children to not confront people. If someone confronts them, answer their question, and leave. When most people are confrontational, they are usually in a mad mood and looking for trouble. I am so sick of this whole thing myself. By the way, what is the black peron's real plight? We no longer live in the past. Blacks have the same chances of getting ahead just like everyone else. That is if they can stop killing each other. Every night I hear on the news where some black person killed another. The Chicago and surrounding area is full of blacks murdering blacks. On several occasions, some black man kills his wife and kids or his girlfriend and kids. No one organizes a march and monopolizes the media about them. Oh, because it was a black person who did the killing, right?
It's only natural that a Racist would defend another.
Toure was nothing more than a angry young man with a big fat ego just like Erin Burnett ( both should be with Fox TV)
Why was justice not served for the brutal killing of Alfredo Tello Jr ( Latino American) by SAMUEL SHEINBEIN in Maryland. Erin Burnett you should know this case you lived not to far away from this story. Toven you might look less of a fool with a bad temper if you can find out why SAMUEL SHEINBEIN is being still protected and you might get answer why George Zimmerman can get away with murder of Trayvon Martin.
Please Google or Bing: Alfredo Tello Jr ( Latino American) by SAMUEL SHEINBEIN the killer of a teenager.
Huguet, fantastic points! They do appear to be trying to reinforce an image of Trayvon as the aggressor, don't they? The Zimmermans aren't unfamiliar with the subtle workings of the judicial system and how to twist them.
Huguet, fantastic points! They do appear to be trying to reinforce an image of Trayvon as the aggressor or someone causing violence to be suffered by the Zimmermans, don't they? The Zimmermans aren't unfamiliar with the subtle workings of the judicial system and how to twist them.
How about just make it illegal to sell guns to blacks? Then since all blacks are law abiding Unarmed Black Men with skittles, no one will ever think they are trying to shoot someone, and we can End Racism.
Your mother did not do a good job with you sad
My heart goes out to the martin family,i myself suffer the lost of my 21yr ol son shot some fifteen times so ,i no how they feel. george zimmerman should be arrested immediately the sanford police department or held accountable for they actions. If this prolong any longer than it has without and arrest remember, rodney king not even close. we r trayvon martin,we r trayvon martin.
Why can't black people spell "their"
Bob...I am White and often make typos and sometimes use the wrong form of their there ! What an awful thing to say..Are you trying to inflame people? Sad....
Piers Morgan presented himself as a media bully. When he failed to elicited an emotional response he began to frame what was supposed to be a question into a statement and then performed a typical attorney maneuver and seek affirmation of his statement. Failing to achieve that, Morgan then attempted to get Zimmerman’s brother to conjecture his brother’s state of mind.
Piers Morgan represents the worst face of media in this tragic event. If George Zimmerman presents himself as well as brother did, it is going to be a tough pull to get that conviction train up the hill.
When will the authorities arrest zimmerman??????????????????????????
You can definately believe "big daddy judge" has already started the training to protect his "want-to-be" cop son. From my experience, "want-to-be cops" are always a little shy of their elevator going to the penthouse. They've been evaluated and found unsuitable for service. So, why was this idiot allowed to carry a weapon?
There's no way around it, Zimmerman is a racist & you so is his whole family! His father was a judge that's raising kids that think & you act like this. Think what you want, this country is racists.
I agree. As an outsider looking in this is how i see it. The US is so biased on racial news in order to sell news, American's perception of race is on what they see and read in the media. So if the media is bias towards a certain race, you are going to get an outcry like we see with the Martin case. If the media is not biased then lots of people will realise their situation is not unique on race, but that white people also suffer from black hate crimes. But how will you know if you're conditioned to think in a certain way?
The issue might not be race but why is some black people making it into such? I think most white people are fed-up with the double standards by some wanting to make it into a hate crime, YET ignoring black on white hate crime? If so, why are these issues not called by the name, and taken on by the biased "racial mongering media" and dealt with the same brush? Is it because the victims of black hate crime is white?? Why does the US media not make an issue of this and the news come out abroad but not in the US?? Double standards create friction. If anyone is to blame the first stop should be with the left racist media that go on sesantionalist stories like calling Zimmerman a "white" Hispanic. If so then Obama should be a "white" African American. -
Hate crime1 --> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110078/Boy-13-doused-gasoline-set-alight-racially-motivated-attack-Kansas-City.html
Hate crime2 -–> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html
Hate crime3 --> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118785/Shawn-Tyson-said-murdered-James-Cooper-James-Kouzaris-Sarasota-Florida.html
Hate crime4--->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
Hate crimes 5 -–> 10 0000 – Many more out there. People are fed-up of this nonsense of double standards! WORLDWIDE!
You need help fool
Even if George Zimmerman is the most horrible racist in the world it doesn't mean that he killed Trayvon Martin in cold blood.
Somebody needs to help you take off your rose colored glasses. It's obvious you have some sort of handicap and it's not particularly physical....
There is no doubt there was a confrontation, so we know it was not in cold blood. I agree with you, that this does not make him or his family a racist. When the 911 operator asked George Zimmerman the man's race he was reporting about, Mr Zimmerman said he THOUGHT he was black. Mr Zimmerman was not even positive the person was black. Also, Mr Zimmerman had no idea that this was a 17 year old. My 14 year old step-daughter looks 19. I know of many children under the age of 15 who could easily pass as 18 or 19. Also, why do people not use some logic and realize that Mr. Zimmerman had no idea what Trayvon was carrying unless he asked him. When you are carrying something heavy like say a container with ice tea, how is anyone to know what it is unless they tell you. I guess it was inevitable that Mr. Zimmerman would end up getting arrested because if the black people do not get their way, then they will burn down the city, just like they did Watts in 1965 and Los Angeles in 1992. Who knows, maybe they will start pulling white people out of their vehicle like they did Reginald Denny (by the way that was a true hate crime). I am so very tried of the "racist" card being thrown out every time something happens to a black person.
You're an idiot.
Please Google or Bing: Alfredo Tello Jr ( Latino American) killed by SAMUEL SHEINBEIN and you can see what the lawyer father did. Justice was never served for the brutal killing of Alfredo Tello Jr teenager.
Frank White maybe you should Google or Bing: Justice is an empty word why ?
Trial in Israel Has Advantages for Sheinbein Defense
By Katherine Shaver
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 27, 1999
Trial in Israel Has Advantages for Sheinbein Defense
By Katherine Shaver
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, February 27, 1999
This is not news. This country has been racist from the very beginning, and it will probably never change. Racism is rooted very deeply in the fabric of this great country.
Piers Morgan demonstrated what might be a lack of objectivity when he used selectively edited audio to attack Robert Zimmerman Jr.'s claim that George acknowledged the police dispatch's statement that "we don't need you to do that" (follow Trayvon Martin). Morgan played audio of the call that he claimed shows that George ignored the police. But the audio Morgan played abruptly ends after the police said "we don't need you to do that" effectively editing out that George responded "ok" to the police statement. You can check for yourself as the entirety of the call is available to the public. (sanfordfl.gov) Not sure if this was intentional and I have enjoyed Morgan's continuation of King's show so far. But the fact that Piers Morgan is still claiming on the air as of the writing of this comment that George refused to acknowledge the police (and is aggressively attacking him based on that) suggests that he might be deliberately supressing the truth on the matter.
Michael you are so right, What a lack of objectivity from the pro media Martin henchmen. The call1 tape from the 911 Calls list on the City of Standford website says it all. George Zimmerman is stationary and answering the 911 operator questions (The call is about 4 minutes long). George see Trayvon starting (about 2 minutes on 30 seconds in the 911 call) to run and begins to follow him. The 911operator ask George are you following him and George says yes. The 911 operator says we do not need you to do that, George replies OK and stops. The 911 operator and George agree to meet the police by the apartments complex's mailboxes and to call him to confirm the location of the mailboxes.
Why YELL for HELP?
The person who is YELLING FOR HELP is GEORGE ZIMMERMAN – George was yelling for help from the police knowing they should be in the area of the apartment complex, since it was George that call for the police in the first place. Also George was yelling for help from the neighbors of the apartment complex to no avail.
Trayvon Martin did not cry out for help because he did not know that many neighbors in the apartment complex or new that the police were called to the apartment complex.
LIAR – LIAR
I can tell you DID NOT listen to the WHOLE 911 call from Zimmerman. The call DID NOT stop after he said OK to the stop following request. It went on for 1 minute and 40 seconds more. And from the time he said that the person (martin) started running and the time the call ended was 2 minutes. A 2 minute head start to run away and run home. According to the call, after he stopped chasing the person, he was talking to the Police on where to meet them, at his car or next to the mail boxes and he also asked the Police to call him also. GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S POLICE CALL – CALL 1
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/911/call1.wav
Police asked FIRST if the person was black or hispanic.
Notice when the person runs George gets out of his
car ( you can hear the door open with the noise maker on)
and he follows him and when the Police tells him to stop
following the person and he says, "OK" then he was
on the phone with the Police for a additional time of
1min40sec. Plus, he was going to meet the Police near
his car or mail boxes.
at 1min30sec Zimmerman asks for the police to get over
here (after telling police that the person
started coming towards him)
at 2min06sec Zimmerman says that the person started
running. (then he starts followings the person)
at 2min26sec Zimmerman says OK to "We don't need you to
do that" (to following the person)
For the next 1min40sec Zimmerman is on the phone with the
Police and says that he will meet the police near his car then
near the mail boxes near by.
at 4min06sec CALL ENDS.
NOTICE: Once Trayvon Martin started to run and the time
when George Zimmerman ended the call with the
Police, Trayvon had 2 MINUTES to get away and
run home or go to another place of safety. Plus
he could have called 911 too. WHY DIDN'T HE.
People are busy. They don't have 2 minutes to listen to George Zimmerman's phone call or his response to "we don't need you to do that." That's why the news media ONLY plays the "we don't need you to do that" part. Nor do they have time to listen to the 7 other people who called 911, each call corroborating Zimmerman's account. Nor do they have time to ponder the deeper issue of why so many people heard someone crying for help and chose to do nothing. This is shameful. Deliberate clouding of the issue for ratings. ALL THE CALLS. ALL THE VIDEO. THE SAME STUFF THE MEDIA CHOOSES TO EDIT: http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html
He did not dial 911 because he was scared and running. Not thinking clearly. George Z. know he was racial profiling and was not going to let another one of those a__holes get away. He misjudged Trayvon and shot an innocent kid. bottom line. . . .When the police told him to stop following Trayvon, why didn't he just continue to go to Target. I believe he is sorry he shot Trayvon but he still needs to be held accountable. Protestors are not asking for him to be hung, they want him to come before a jury of his peers. What if it was your child . . . What if it was George Z dead?
How can a person be racially profiling if they are not even sure of the person's race. On the 911 call when the operator asks Mr. Zimmerman about the person's race, he responded by saying he THINKS he is black. Too many people are going on emotion and not the truth or logic. So sad for our country.
YOUR interpretation is quite impressive to those who can easily be influnced by others, those who are easily manipulated and fail to have a mind of their own and or are not capable or finding the correct information on their own. The bad news is that some will go along with what YOU claim to be the truth? The good news is that many of us aren't impressed AT ALL by your useless effort.
That was interesting to listen to the actual account of the call, you say that George remained by the car and did not continue his pursuit of Treyvon. Question: Why did he tell the officers to call him when they were coming to find out where he was at? I think just as he was about to hang up he decided he was going to continue his pursuit and wanted officers to call him when they arrived. What happened them we might never know. What we do know is that George was the one who initiated a pursuit after a kid that had done NOT a single thing wrong. If you are a vigilante who takes justice into your own hands you do so knowingly for there IS risk involved. Secondly if we look at past history Treyvon shows no propensity towards violence that would suggest him being such a threat to George while George's criminal past speaks for itself. In almost every state George would be in jail already, but this stupid law leaves too much grey area for abuse. He should be in jail and have to appear before a jury to decide his fate. As for the law hopefully this puts it under the magnifying glass to be reexamined.
Ah, I think it's you, my friend, who didn't listen to the entire 911 recording. If you had, you couldn't have failed to notice that the 911 operator suggested that Zimmerman, or asked Zimmerman if he would, meet the police at his truck. Zimmerman replied, "Ah, actually could they call me on my cell phone first? Do you have my number?" To which the operator responded by repeating his number. Zimmerman confirmed this before the call ended. Are you trying to edit, or did you just not listen long enough? I'm inclined to believe the former, as you seem to know the time the call ended. How could you have missed the significance of that exchange?
...""Clashing biases help get more facts and ideas into the diucsssion.""Assuming, of course, that Komment Kontrol ever allows your "facts and ideas into the diucsssion" in the first place."Will you cut it out with the "Komment Kontrol" crap already? You sound stupid. I can therefore only conclude that you are stupid.This is Steve's site. Steve is "Komment Kontrol". If you have a problem because this nebulous, all-powerful force you call "Komment Kontrol" is thwarting your will, then your problem really lies with Steve, and perhaps you just shouldn't post here. I'm betting that would suit any number of us just fine.
What is really needed is the on scene medics report. First off had their been any sign of head trauma any sign of having almost loss consciousness, they would have transported Zimmerman to an ER for a brain scan. A Broken nose would require X-Rays. Any done days latter are invalid as to when the injury took place if any real diagnose by a Doctor was made. The police would have taken Pictures of any injuries as well. This all smells as a Family trying to not except what a member of it has done. And nothing would have taken place had Zimmerman done as told by the 911 dispatch officer. And The Father saying Trayvon saw the Gun and stated "Your going to die tonight'. Really? Maybe I am going to die tonight... Also nice that people that were not there are giving Zimmerman's version, while this Young man can not speak His version. Nothing that the Zimmerman Family is saying rings credible. In fact I found His Brothers statements offensive to common sense.Almost unconsciousness...then how in an minutes time did he manage to pull a gun and fire it to kill, While being beating to near death. Warding off this beating all most unconscious and still manage to pull aim and fire...PLEASE...
Your nose is not bone and torn cartilage does not show on an xray
Yes You have nasel Bones...Guess what i am an X Ray Tech...Try again...
YOU are NOT correct!
Julie i f I could delete the reply I would. I read it on my email not here in context please except my apoligy...And Your Right our ears but we have Nasal bones! Besides if their was any thought of any real injury He would have been taken to an ER room had X-rays and or scans...It is just not credible and with real voice analyse results out. Nothing Zimmerman says is Credible...
The nasal bones are two small oblong bones, varying in size and form in different individuals; they are placed side by side at the middle and upper part of the face, and form, by their junction, “the bridge” of the nose (Fig. 190). Each has two surfaces and four borders.
My family would back me up NO MATTER WHAT! and tell the story EXACTLY AS I TOLD THEM.
SO, why did Piers Morgan interview the brother? I fail to see the point, the brother was NOT THERE!
PIERS MORGAN...that was very stupid!
Right, GZ should have gone to ER and that would have prove in court. But this also gives me some fishing, that shows me he doesn't want Doctor to find something wrong with GZ or he has something to hide like drugs in blood??? Dunno, he was not been tested by Police that night anyway. GZ knew that his nose wasn't broken when ER would prove that for sure but they can take care of his injury of his head. I dunno how this will proof of Trayvon case. This is (to me) unusal case I guess. Good luck to court.
I think, there is no honest person on earth like the man in Nigeria, who notify the American embassy in Nigeria about his son being radicalized by Islamist group! People are not honest here, in every aspect of lives, the way i see things here! This guy is just lying, how come your brother did something like this, and you don't heard it until in next two days!!! Just to defend someone because he is brother, girlfriend or your employee doesn't add up with the truth or log of lives, it is very common here!! What i have seen since i came to north America, protectionism, but less truth, lets be honest please! " Zimmerman", whether he is right or wrong, he should be in jail until the case is finalized! You cant just kill a human being, and sit and enjoy like you were killing animal!! This case, send mix messages to other to that part of the world the system of law in America!! WHY DO AMERICA CARE, FOR THE PROBLEM OR KILLING OF OTHERS NATIONS, FAIL TO PROTECT ITS CITIZENS AS EQUAL BEFORE THE LAW! SELF DEFEND CANT BE JUSTIFY SIMPLY LIKE THAT! LET THE LAW JUSTIFY THAT, BUT IF THE LAW FAIL TO DO SO BY FAILING TO GATHERING ALL THE INFORMATION, THE FACTORS NEEDED BY THE NATIONS TO KNOW ABOUT THIS CASE, THAN THERE IS NO LAW THAN RACISM!!
I found Thursday nights show a little bit more than insulting. When this incident occured, CNN and it's sister station HLN and all their personalities on these networks were saying that Zimmerman should have at least been arrested. As we see now, he was clearly in handcuffs in a police cruiser pulling into a police station the night of the shooting. Just because your head is hit on the ground doesn't mean that you're going to be gushing blood everywhere or that with a broken nose, that you'll be soaked in blood...oh, I forgot, this is video AFTER he was looked at by the paramedics. Piers just makes the assumption that when Zimmerman was told by the 911 dispatch that he didn't have to follow anymore that he did anyways. Although there is no proof/fact as of yet what Mr. Zimmerman did. I also wonder if a famous white person or even a non-famous white person tweeted the wrong address, what would occur to them? Piers, have you ever seen how an MMA fighter/boxer looks like after a fight within the half hour period of it ending? Some of them don't look too bad and they got punched a lot. I'm guessing, as usual with CNN, my comment won't get past the moderation stage of being posted. By the way, I still haven't heard of any charges against Mr Zimmerman...must not be as clear cut as you think at this moment.
Pierce it is 3/30/12 and this Torrie not sure of the spelling) man is just not worth the time. He does not want to hear anything but His own thoughts. And it hard to believe that He is attacking you for not behaving in manors that are like His own when it come to interviewing or talking to another. If you did you would be off the air...
I am very dismayed that Toure is allowed to display that much anger on a show and question the professionalism of Pier Morgan. Pier Morgan is an outstanding journalist who has been reporting on this case in a professional and objective manner. I find Toure to be very rude and unprofessional. To say that maybe that is the way something is done in England etc., how rude! I watch Pier Morgan all the time and have always found him to be very objective. MSNBC or NBC whoever Toure works for should remove from the air until he is taught to be calm and objective.
I agree with your comment completely...It was awful. I wanted Him removed from the program... I see now thier is a place to comment on this program tonight. Think I will post to look here too!
Regardless of what you think about Toure, Piers IS NOT an outstanding journalist. He is a tabloid journalist and the only reason he was able to get a more respectable gig like the one he currently has is because most Americans know nothing about him other than he won Celebrity Apprentice and hosts America's Got Talent. In England he was actually found in breach of their journalist Codes of Conducts. It would be like TMZ's Harvey Levin getting a hard news gig in England...that is how bad his reputation is.
As an outsider looking in, this is how i see it. The US is so biased on racial news in order to sell news, American's perception of race is on what they see and read in the media. So if the media is bias towards a certain race, you are going to get an outcry like we see with the Martin case. If the media is not biased then lots of people will realise their situation is not unique on race, but that white people also suffer from black hate crimes. But how will you know if you're conditioned to think in a certain way?
The issue might not be race but why is some black people making it into such? I think most white people are fed-up with the double standards by some wanting to make it into a hate crime, YET ignoring black on white hate crime? If so, why are these issues not called by the name, and taken on by the biased "racial mongering media" and dealt with the same brush? Is it because the victims of black hate crime is white?? Why does the US media not make an issue of this and the news come out abroad but not in the US?? Double standards create friction. If anyone is to blame the first stop should be with the left racist media that go on sesantionalist stories like calling Zimmerman a "white" Hispanic. If so then Obama should be a "white" African American. -
Hate crime1 --> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110078/Boy-13-doused-gasoline-set-alight-racially-motivated-attack-Kansas-City.html
Hate crime2 -–> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html
Hate crime3 --> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118785/Shawn-Tyson-said-murdered-James-Cooper-James-Kouzaris-Sarasota-Florida.html
Hate crime4--->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
Hate crimes 5 -–> 10 0000 – Many more out there. People are fed-up of this nonsense of double standards! WORLDWIDE!
It truly appears that Zimmerman had become more aggressive in his pursuit to be some sort of hero/vigilante with his continued and more frequent 911 calls. I personally believe that he has studied the law on "Stand Your Ground" and has been waiting to use it! Period! This was a set up and Trayvon was just the unlucky recipient... Where's Zimmerman's enemies, everyone has enemies, lets hear what they have to say?! What about his job? Lets hear what they have to say...
I am a white Canadian Woman! Why are you so bias to Zimmerman and not ask or challenge anything this brother said. I had plenty of questions about this case that you chose not to ask or question him about. You are not a good reporter and/or commentator Mr. Morgan! The crap that this man let pour out of his mouth is awful! Get the facts and ask tough
questions and cross examine the people you have on.
The Zimmerman family needs to get their stories straight. Robert Zimmerman Sr gives a different version of what George told him in regards to whether or not George was following Trayvon. View his version and you will see the disparities in their accounts.
Amen!!! I totally agree! I'm so glad someone else saw through the BS.
It was deplorable to have to listen to G. Zimmerman's brother on TV. He was not a witness. He had nothing to add.
He is clearly lying to save a brother. How could you show him on TV? That was in very, very bad taste and makes your show look like a Tabloid....or Fox News.
You are Right. Also, Mike Tyson got on there and was scared to say The United States is The Most Racist Country There Is.
Piers I believe you had an excellent interview ith Zimmermans brother.
It was not an interview. It was a cross examination. Hopefully, soon trials by the news media will be implemented in the US. That is the only way to get justice. One more step closer to Idiocracy.
He never asked the most important question of all which was whether or not he knew his brother had serious mental problems and anger issues. He never asked how his brother felt about not being able to qualify as a police officer and how he felt about being fired as a security guard for being overly aggressive. He never asked how his father as a judge had reacted when he learned his son had been arrested for assault on a police officer. That would have made for an interesting interview. I thought Piers did a very poor job and let him off the hook.
"But if her statement reftecls her real state of mind, it means she's just out for revenge–of the 'look how I'm hurting, so I want to hurt you back' variety."What's wrong with that? Why do people always say, "So-and-so just wants revenge" as though that was inherently a bad thing?A revenge all out of proportion to whatever set it in motion is wrong but I look at revenge as putting the scales back in balance. In Innocent Blood P.D. James muses, "Perhaps that was why revenge was so satisfying; it worked."Call Trayvon's mother out for the tawdry exploitation of her son's death but not for any presumed desire for revenge. It's possible to hold opposing viewpoints simultaneously. She may very well feel devastated by her loss in between discussions of how best to profit from it.
Piers its 2 side 2 every story. Simmerman family & friends talking about Trayvon like they knew him.All bec what Simmerman told them. Simmerman had no knomledge of Trayvon until that fetal night. 2 know a person behavior u have 2 know them. Simmerman family knew George had a angry management problem & they still in denial about George angry. Some parents dont want 2 face the music & accept the problem in they children. I cant go 2 court & put my hand on the bible & say what my kids wont do. George have a arrest record showing that he have a angry behavior. Trayvon cant defend hisself bec he was cold blooded murder.Why should some1 claim self defense when they the approacher. I work at the hospital patients come in with head injuries & beat up. By the time they get there its a knot on they head & swollening. If Simmerman was punch in the nose there should have been some swollening
I WISH SOMEONE WOULD ASK A PARAMEDIC OR DOCTOR HOW MUCH A HEAD WOUND BLEEDS.....ZIMMERMAN SHOWED NO SIGN OF THIS KIND OF BLEEDING AT THE POLICE STATION???
Who the heck is this TOUR'E? How disrespectfull and rude he was.I was left was my mouth dropping to the floor.Piers I think you handled TOUR'E very PROFESSIONALLY!
Why can't the American public view its world with any degree of objectivity? In the matter of a man's life, how can it convict him even before his arrest? Choosing to ride the tidal wave of public opinion is an immense responsibility for any individual, at any time, and yet, feeling strength in numbers, people engage in it so blithely. But which of them alone is willing to bear the stark consequences if it all goes wrong and the fortress of mainstream conviction crumbles or simply blows away.? If you ask me, it's a disturbing and insidious variety of blood lust under the guise of social righteousness. Your rebuttle of Toure tonight was brave and brilliant. The very fact that the issue is a source of such immense pain for him is an excellent reason for him to step back from it and let cooler heads prevail. As far as I'm concerned, he's a vulgar and unforgiving individual who would benefit well from a course of anger management. And yes, you are a professional.
I think to many people are rushing to judgement. This man is going to have a hard time getting a fair trial.
How about the rush to judgement that Zimmerman made? Where's Trayvon's fair trial?
Exactly . . . the Zimmerman's act like black people don't care about their kids. The police act the same way. Like they just gonna take their word for it and forget about their son's death. They loved Trayvon just like the Zimmerman's love George trigger happy a___. Why was Trayvon running home if he is so aggressive. George needs to be arrested instead of sitting at home making up stories. How can he sleep at night. They say he is distraught . . . he needs to be but the deed is done now.
Your show with G Zimmerman's bother was pathetic and showed what a terrible so called journalist you are. You never challenged him on any of the tough issues that flowed out of the potty mouth white racist. He had no personal information to offer since he was not on the scene. He offered no value to this case.
I at least have the power to switch channels once you come on and I promise that I will do so. You really showed your true colors last night and let people see what a white racist you are as well. You should just go back home after being fired.
I do enjoy your show and find it to be entertaining and informative. I think that though professionalism is a major part of journalism the public does seek some emotional feedback re sensitive stories. You were in a difficult position interviewing the brother of George Zimmerman.It can't be easy and you did well. However, people are across the nation in an uproar because of what appears to be a lack of standard operating procedure ,if you will. When someone is recorded as deliberately following a 17 yr old who wasn't doing anything wrong in the first place, then calls him black a number of times with several phrases that include things like "they always get away" a–h–e,and other swearing and yet there was no crime going on .The kid was walking on a sidewalk path talking on a cell phone with ice tea and skittles as everyone knows . Does it seem logical that a murder should be ensued on a teen going home.What a shame that an innocent act WALKING home should end with this volunteer who has a history of violence going after him as a vulture would. I guess people are hoping that the truth will prevail.But when the facts ,which are backed up with audio 911 and video tapes, and eyewitnesses are there and yet there seems to be a different sop in this case. This is upsetting to all races but especially the black race I am sure. Hopefully justice will prevail .No one wants to convict an innocent person but looking at the facts it seems the major injuries were to Trayvon ,the infringement on his right to walk home was on Trayvon, the loss of life was on Trayvon. If Mr. Z was injured it wasn't evident in the video, or at least enough to equal death to the teen followed. Playing fields are not that even in this case it seems.
First of all, RZJ (Robbert Zimmerman Jr) misstates Trayvon's girlfriend's affidavit. What she said was that in response to her advising Trayvon to run, Trayvon responded that he was not going to run, but was going to walk FAST (probably thinking that running might make someone think he did something wrong) not slow, as RZJ stated. Secondly, let's assume for a moment that George's nose was broken, his head was seriously injured (neither of which I believe) and all of the blood on his face and head was cleaned up by the EMT on scene. That still leaves his clothing...they should have been covered in blood if those injuries occurred. Both are known to be very bloody injuries. I also wonder about him not having Trayvon's blood on him if, as he claimed, he was shot while the two were struggling. Unfortunately, the police failed to confiscate George's clothing–huge mistake. They could have spoken volumes about any injuries George sustained and about George's proximity to Trayvon when the shooting occurred.
I had heard that RZJ was not actually very close to George at all...I am not sure about that but I do know that the guy who keeps going on TV telling everyone how close he is to George seems to be a social acquaintance as opposed to the BFF he is trying to portray himself as. I wonder if RZJ is looking for his 15 minutes too.
Not if he was falling backward then the ground.
Dear Piers~ Saw the Tory rant, OMG! He seemed like a child! Don't worry about it! If you roll out some nut, he's painting himself in a corner! That's this moron bother of Zimmerman's. You as a very good journalist let him roll all over the place, you knew he was lying! He exposed himself! It's all good! You gave him enough rope! So that's a bad thing with Tory? I love what you said to him! He was very disrespectful to you. He had a silly inappropriate tantrum!
Hello Morgan, if he is still alive (sacrificial lamb) Zimmerman, brings people to understand, no Nazi, No hatred, no bad religious overtones. Everyone is part of God's plan. This incident is not part of anyone's plan. However, it was done and most of it has been done away with and with less evidence to acknowledge to indite.
It's shameful how you continue to edit the 911 calls and cut off people you are interviewing. Yellow journalism and confirmation bias at it's worst.
The issue might not be race but why is some black people making it into such? I think most white people are fed-up with the double standards by some wanting to make it into a hate crime, YET ignoring black on white hate crime? If so, why are these issues not called by the name, and taken on by the biased "racial mongering media" and dealt with the same brush? Is it because the victims of black hate crime is white?? Why does the US media not make an issue of this and the news come out abroad but not in the US?? Double standards create friction. If anyone is to blame the first stop should be with the left racist media that go on sesantionalist stories like calling Zimmerman a "white" Hispanic. If so then Obama should be a "white" African American. -
Hate crime1 --> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2110078/Boy-13-doused-gasoline-set-alight-racially-motivated-attack-Kansas-City.html
Hate crime2 -–> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117695/Brutal-home-invasion-Oklahoma-couple-ends-65-year-romance-meeting-blind-date.html
Hate crime3 --> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2118785/Shawn-Tyson-said-murdered-James-Cooper-James-Kouzaris-Sarasota-Florida.html
Hate crime4--->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom
Hate crimes 5 -–> 10 0000 – Many more out there. People are fed-up of this nonsense of double standards! WORLDWIDE!
race war NOW!
Racism and racial profiling are not the same thing people. Along with arrest and being charged are not the same thing. The lead first on scene Officer Arrested Zimmerman. Note Handcuffs, taken to station...what occurred was The State attorney's office refused to press charges. Your wanting Zimmerman Charged or indicted by a Grand Jury and to Stand Trial. With all that was not done after the State Attorneys office refused, it may take awhile. Sometimes it can take a long time, years( Not that that will happen in this case) . If Zimmerman was injured, their will be Police Photos of said injuries, lots of them. Saying you have a broken nose with out an x-ray, ( He was not deemed in need of Medical Care by the Medics or He would have been taken to an ER room. New just coming forward witness, a month latter, this is troublesome. Anything Zimmerman's Family is saying is called here-say and not allowed in a courtroom. The autopsy report will help. Along with ( I pray they did testing of George's clothes) if not then this police Department is going to be in Trouble. Procedure must always be followed for evidence to be allowed in a Court room. A strict Chain of Evidence must be followed. So at this point in time, we need to wait for Their Crime Lab reports, checking of creditability of witnesses, the forensics of the crime scene. justice is not always swift, as we wish. I do believe that Zimmerman will be charged and that His Family members need to be quiet because they seem non credible and are inflaming the situation.
As a "journalist", Toure is perceived as a bit of a joke by those in the business who worked with him for years and were charged with forcing him to try to actually break news in his stories and clean up his messy prose. Which is why his lecturing of Piers Morgan on the ethics of investigative journalism plays as comedy. Sycophantic Rolling Stone profiles of rappers and sports figures doth not a journalist make Toure! And the arrogance of acting like he speaks for NBC, viz. "We were at NBC laughing," etc. when Toure merely has a contract as a paid guest (if that), right? The sycophantic tweets he posts about MSNBC correspondents in his effort to suck up (photos of Tamron Hall's heels? Yuck.) are not to be believed.
George Zimmerman is a lying racist, and his family is too. Piers, I do not know why you are listening to his lying racist brother.
The Zimmermans are all a bunch of Lying Racists. George Zimmermans Dad and Mother Taught them hate and deceit, George actions proves it. Now they are on T.V Looking People Dead in the Eyes and Lying. They are all a bunch of Criminals...
Betty, you hit the nail on the head! The fruit definately doesn't fall far from the tree! And.... A bad tree cannot bear good fruit....
Say No More!
Mr. Morgan performed poorly in this interview, and he appeared to me to be yet another media figure who has judged George Zimmerman guilty. Robert Z, by contrast, OWNED Mr. Morgan, I though. For one thing, he was poised and classy, despite being peppered with Morgan's slanted questions. Let me be specific:
– When Morgan tried maintaining that the 911 recording indicated that George defied the dispatcher when ask to cease following Martin, Robert objected to Morgan’s contention. He pointed out that the recording ends, so whether or not George continued to follow is conjecture. Robert reminded Morgan that his brother's contention is that he DID stop following, but that Martin approached him. The truth eventually will come out, but no thanks to Morgan.
– When Morgan suggested that the jailhouse video shows or leads one to believe that George was not injured, Robert said in no uncertain terms that his brother’s nose was broken, and that all aspects of these medical issues will come out in the investigation. Morgan fell into the trap of believing his own amateur medical diagnosis, based on a grainy video. The truth about all this exists, of course, and it will surely come out at some point in the legal process.
– More than once, Morgan tried simplifying the incident by stating that George "pulled a gun" and shot Martin. Robert very firmly corrected him by giving George’s side of that story, and maintaining that this was a dangerous struggle, George felt he might have the gun taken from him, and the shot came in self defense.
There are two sides to every story, for sure. But, I thought it shocking that virtually ALL of Morgan's specific questions, and his tone in general, very clearly was slanted only to one side.
I see All Criminals not only Stick Together, They Think Alike.
You are obviously not a very good judge of character. I thought Piers should have been more agreesive in his questioning. But, the calmness in his tone lead Zimmerman to feel comfortable painting his rosy pictures which painted his brother in an almost angelic llight. "He's (george) has NEVER LIED." and "He's (george) has NEVER used ANY racial slur."???????? Give me a break!!!! But Oh! If they can convinced you – that ONE person in a million to believe them – scary!
Both Betty and Danita, in their different approaches above, reflect the mob mentality that unfortunatly circles this case like sharks. Devoid of facts, or even logic, both simply make angry attacks. "Criminals", Betty? What do you even mean by that, exactly? Wanna try fleshing out your silly rant a bit?
And, Danita, I myself know nothing about George, with respect to lies, or racial slurs. Do you? And, if you are saying that you are some kind of authority on these matters, with respect to all human beings, including those you've never met, I'd reject that out of hand.
The loss of this young man is, without a doubt, a horrible tragedy. My sincerest sympathies to the family in this time of loss.
That being said, I fear that this situation is at long last making me jaded. I have always taken great efforts to see the painful perspective of the black community - mindful of the horrible injustices that they have endured. But this Trayvon situation has left me exhausted. Regardless of how the situation got there, if Trayvon had not confronted Zimmerman at his car, he would not have gotten shot. You can argue the fairness of the situation - and I'm sure that there would be validity to the argument - but the bottom line is, the young man is dead because he fought a man with a gun. Whether he was goaded or just too anxious to fight is irrelevant as he's still dead!
Three weeks prior to this incident, a 13yr white boy was attacked by two 16yr black boys. The victim was doused in gasoline and then light on fire. Where is the public outrage on that? Why isn't the president commenting on that? I would bet my life savings that if the roles were reversed with the victim black and the attackers white, then it would have been a HUGE public issue.
Despite my strongest desires, this inequality in public opinion is festering seeds of resentment in my heart.
Where were the victim's parents and other loved ones? why did they allow this to happen without raising hell, protesting so it won't happen to another child? NOTHING AT ALL would be happening right now if not for the demand for justice BY THE PARENTS. It appears that nothing would have been noticed without A LOT OF NOISE. The police dept. is now being investigated and the chief HAD to step down...I wonder why. When an injustice takes place it's up to each and everyone of us to do something about it, but to compare it to another injustice somewhere else, while doing nothing? that is so sad!
Julie...You really should be quiet. The Parents they were a few doors down getting ready to have a Family night watching Basketball game together. And I won't even bother to point out all your misleading and totally non-factual statements. You are The Problem...You judge by looks and preconceived backwards things... Ps. The Voice analyses has been released it is not George Zimmerman yelling for help...Everything He and His family and friends say is totally discredited...
So knowing that the cops could show up at any moment and witness what was happening, knowing that all the yelling of "help me!" (whoever you believe yelled it) probably attracted witnesses, George Zimmerman made a deliberate choice to murder Trayvon Martin in front of several potential witnesses. Makes sense.
The person you responded to is probably Zimmerman or a family memeber.
I have apologized to Julie. I replied off of email and not here in context. So the remarks I made were to the original commenter not Julie. Again Julie I am sorry for this and would change the post if I could.
Jennifer Dooley....perhaps I did not make myself clear. My comment, to begin with, was in reply to GT48's post concerning a 13 yr. old victim. Then, I went on to comment about Trayvon's parents...doing the right thing, so justice can be done for their son. NOW, maybe what we have here "is a failure to communicate"
I feel Zimmerman is at fault for shooting Trayvon, actually guilty as hell. Never did I believe Z was the one yelling for help, so if that has made clear...GREAT, I have not heard that yet. But...I won't be quiet, and that's for sure.
George is devastated by the sioiatutn. He is not a monster. I've known him 3 years now and he doesn't so much as raise his voice to anyone. It is a shame that this young boy was killed, but let the law do its job. Police are running an investigation to make sure they get the correct story and don't screw up the case or evidence. The media is turning this into a circus like they do everything else. The police are working fast to take care of this case, let them do their job and stop blasting someone you don't even know. George may have made a poor decision by not letting the police handle it, but let the law do it's job.
You and George ares Liars. If you lie, you Steal, and if You steal you will kill.
You are a Liar and just as Dishonest as the Zimmermans are. Trayvon Never Approached that Low Life Zimmerman. The incident you spoke of was mexican or latino who set the kid on fire in Fl.
Actually he was walked past him when Zimmerman was in his car then came back on him after Zimmerman was walking back to his car. Look at the map http://tinyurl.com/74hjpjf
Very disapointed with Piers Morgan. Now I realise he is very racist and I will not be watching his show again. I know that he said he does not care who watches him but will be asking people not to. He let Robert Zimmerman brother get away and gentle talked to him whereas with Toure he was a BULLY. Sorry CNN but you have a racist man in Larry King's chair
Piers Morgan conducted an un-biased interview with Robert Zimmerman and this apparently is upsetting to some CNN viewers who prefer the lynch mob style reporting we've heard all week.
Most of us are getting sick of it!
The voice does sound like Zimmerman's calling out for help, you can tell this by the pitch of his voice on the 911 call.
Sadly, Trayvon Martin's mother hears her dead son's voice on that tape–she is still in shock and profound grief, she likely hears Trayvon's voice everywhere she goes.
CNN needs to stop the race-baiting and should invite a few Hispanic commentators to give audience's another perspective to this tragic story.
It is possible Trayvon Martin punched Zimmerman to the ground because he too held negative stereotypes of burly Hispanic men with shaved heads.
No one is acknowledging that stereotypes are held by everyone of all races and ethnicity.
CNN viewers deserve to hear fair and balanced reporting based on known facts and not biased assumptions.
First of just bcause zimmerman is not a blackman so he's telling the truth. Patghetic...
To Barbara,
Just because Zimmerman is not a blackman, he's telling the truth. Yeah, ritght you all are pathetic.
Even if Trayvon did have preconceived notions of burley Hispanic men, he was NOT the aggressor! Zimmerman initiated THE action that began any and all interactions thereafter. You really don't get it, do you?
Are you kidding me? Hispanic? He's only sharing that he has hispanic ancestry to down play his actions. And, to get the hispanic community to back him up. He's George Zimmerman. Do you know any hispanics named Zimmerman? I doublt it. Get a grip people. His daddy the judge is orchestrating a p.r. campaign to gain sympathy for his pathetic son.
You're dumb,hispanics have all types of different last names.Most argentines have german ancestry and german names and they are hispanic!
Piers needs Fox Nation for his twitter count, and Piers wants to give Dana Fox Nation a high five. George Zimmerman is par to their cause now. The professional right has championed this killer George Zimmerman.
Im so dang sick of the Zimmerman's shifting their story everytime they talk. All they doing is digging a hole. First he claims Trayvon was beating him so bad that he had to shoot him to prevent being paralyzed. Now they saying he sshot trayvon cause he was going for his gun. I guess they had to come up with something else since the video shows that he wasnt beaten at all.
If my character and honor were assaulted by the media, I would be out there speaking up for myself. He hasn't been charged with anything so there is no legal reason for him to maintain his silence!
new information. The Voice analyses has come out... it is NOT Zimmerman yelling for Help ...So Zimmerman , His Family and His friends account are out the window...
Actually 48% match. That basically a coin flip. Plus you would need a sample of Zimmerman screaming to make the comparison. You would also need a sample of Martins voice it even less of a match. Given what I know voices (i'm singer songwriter 25 years expirence) in General once past puberty voices only change slowly over a long time. In general the taller person will have a deeper voice. Real unlikily the 6 foot 3 inch person would have high pitched voice.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-911-20120331,0,250481.story
I tried to post established articals on this but Am not allowed. So google this to get the results.
Sure there is a reason! Daddy said so!
For all those that have bought into Zimmerman's "Story", His Family's or Friend's...The Voice Analyses is Done...It is NOT Zimmerman yelling for Help...Zimmermans story and those trying to make it fit , All go down in Flames ...
Jennifer do know what proximity effect is? Basically how close you are to a microphone determines how much of the low end or bass is picked up. In Zimmerman's 911 call he speaking directly into the mic on the phone. In the screams for help is at least 15 feet away from the mic. In order to make a valid comparison you need to have Zimmerman scream from the distance away from the phone. Then you would have a valid control sample. Next different brands of mic have different frequency response ranges. How does he know what make ans model phone each person had? A 48% match is basically a coin might be him might not be him. Plus the cloest ear and eye witness says it was Zimmerman screaming.
PEZ I will take the expert analyses over yours besides You do not even know human anatomy.
Why was Zimmerman out of his car? As soon as he exited his car, he was the aggressor. At night in the rain, followed by an unmarked car, if that driver approached me and tried to lay their hands on me without first answering my question, I would be tempted to respond with defensive force immediately. Keep your filthy hands off me, dude. A bop in the nose seems fitting before you starf to run like hell.
Trayvon's girlfriend said that Trayvon asked Zimmerman "Why are you following me?" -- NOT "Why were you following me?". This suggests that it is not the case that Trayvon doubled back to 'get' Zimmerman. Mr. Z. et al appear too dumb to fabricate enough lies that will be consistent – hopefully no combination of lies will do that.
How far away was the shooting from the car? And those screams – that's a kid. Anyone can see that. And shooting – why do you shoot at close range in chest? A bullet in the arm or leg will serve as "self-defence".
Maybe it is the case of a bully getting the beating he deserves (but a bloody nose and booboo on the head is hardly something you kill over). But the bully had a gun and was clearly under the delusion that he is a cop or some yahoo cowboy of the wild west.
Whatever it is, the boy should be alive now. Something needs to done now or everyone will shoot first before the other guy can.
Gary you do know that Martin walked right passed Zimmermans parked car? If his intent was stop and confront why did not get out of the car and confront him right then? He had a perfect opportunity to do so in well lit area. Why wait to get out of the car until he losing visual contact with him?
To someone with anger issues/violent past, a bump on the nose and "booboo" (like that) on his head, from a black teen (if it even went that far) would be hard to take, SPECIALLY WHEN CARRYING A GUN! Hell, just shoot the kid!
"Common denominator to almost every perpetrator I have known- they have painted themselves in a camouflage of victimhood."
The person who is YELLING FOR HELP is GEORGE ZIMMERMAN – George was yelling for help from the police knowing they should be in the area of the apartment complex, since it was George that call for the police in the first place. Also George was yelling for help from the neighbors of the apartment complex to no avail.
Trayvon Martin did not cry out for help because he did not know that many neighbors in the apartment complex or new that the police were called to the apartment complex.
George or George's family member, why do you continue to get on T.V and post Lies on this site and other sites? I doubt that you will be arrested and charged with anything. However, you will answer for your crimes of murder, hate and dishonesty to a Higher Power. Scriptures says You Get By, but You Do not Get Away; There's an All Seeing Eye Watching You.
Great! are you ready to take the stand and testify? you just know what went on, YOU were there! (you are not well, did you know that?)
Julie,
The person that continue to Lie about that being George Z. screaming is George himself, a family memeber or a friend. They are going to stick to their lies as they have been trained to.
There shouldn't be a "race card" issue. Bringing race into the picture only escalates the situation between races. The fact remains Mr Zimerman shot and killed an unarmed teen. Whether that teen had a past with the law makes no difference. Mr Zimmermans' life was not in danger. He was not threatened or being harmed in any way. In my 10 years in the Coast Guard as a law enforcement boarding officer he should not have even pulled his weapon from his holster. There is a "use of force" continuum to follow. To use the proper level of force to compel compliance. Which means verbal, hand control, full physical control, pepper spray, non leathal force....etc. Obviously Mr Zimmerman had poor judgment in this.
"Want to Be Cop". At his age what pre-officer training did he have? What Training did he have regarding Self Defence, Martial Arts, Etc. I know when I considered becoming a police officer I took classes for several years. Did Zimmerman Have special training on Self Defence or was he a want to be without abilities or training? Wish this question would have been asked. Did he have firearms training or just have a license and a gun?
When Trevor was shot was he standing or was he on top of Zimmerman. That would clarify if there was an attack or a story. The angle of the bullet and the position they were in when Zimmerman shot Trevor would and should clarify iweather Zimmerman was on the ground having his head bashed or if they were borth standing. We the people need to know this.
Agreed. the Autopsy report. It would have been very Helpful had they taken Zimmerman's clothes. To check for Gun Powder stippling and Blood splatter. I am not 100% sure but I think they just last week asked for His clothes. Of which at this point and time be of little help especially if washed. Also if they were struggling over a gun, and it went off their would be gun powder residue on Trayvon. Where is this Information???? I do think that eliminating, through voice analyses that it was NOT Zimmerman yelling for Help pretty much discredits anything further He has had to say.
IF it is as it seems: Big, big mistakes were made, and an effort to cover up along the way! It makes me sick to think we may not have know about this, if not for Trayvon's parents and their search for justice, I am and will be 100% behind them (and I am white but more important I'm a mother)
Me Too...I can not even begin to understand that their are those that make it dangerous to grab a bag of candy and an Ice Tea . And then Justify it...Injury to insults... Guess I can be sure I won't be in The Jury Pool. I feel deep in my Gut...Just Plain Wrong...
I wish that people would not buy Skittles. Why are people supporting Skittles Maker? I will never buy anothger bag of skittles or Arizona Tea. According to CNN either of these companies even offered condolences or any kind of support to this family. We know if this had been a White kid they would have spoken out and did anything they could have too support the family.
I would like to know what Robert Zimmerman meant by, when someone is running its hard to say what their saying under their breath. Why was george zimmerman running and where.
Lance, I got the impression from the wind sounds in the 911 recording that start right after "He is running", that the pursuer begins either speed walking, jogging or running to keep pace with his suspect.
I am not an American, however I lived in North America for over 15 years, and I can spot racial bigotry a mile away when it raises its ugly head. I believe there lots of good and decent people in all races and ethnicities, but also there are lots of bigots running around out there as well some with guns too. The question is why George Zimmerman had to end this young kid's life. Treyvon Martin had people who loved him too and still do, he was somebody's child. I am living in St. Vincent and the Grenadines, in the Caribbean/ West Indies region and our hearts go out to Treyvon’s entire family, his mom, and dad especially and my encouragement to them is to stay strong, keep fighting for your loving son Treyvon never stop. However, I am appealing to all decent and fair minded Americans to let us come together, and put a stop to all kinds’ of bigotry. I know it is difficult for lots of Americans and people around the world economically, but we can still treat one other like human beings. I think we have the strength and the intellect to do it. I am a Vincentian or Vincy and I love all Americans no matter their ethnicity or race; you guys are a great nation of scientific and innovative people. Economically I believe things will get better for you guys soon. A strong America is good for the world all over let us continue to fight for peace and justice. My name Errol Duncan I am out, thanks for letting me share my opinion. People from all around the world are watching this tragedy unfold in America and it is sad to see. Please let’s work together to get rid of racial and all other types of bigotry. When I watch TV, lots of Americans seemed to be religious; well we must treat all peoples like God’s children.
Yes...We should All work towards... Goodwill Towards All... When people use Christianity for their Bigotry or any other religion to wrap judgement in...It is not of God... So I being Christian have to ask these that do, What would Jesus have done? Certainly not the events that took place...
I hope someone notices that the event ended in the grass not near the sidewalk. The shooter's claim that his head was being mashed senseless into the cement and he feared for his life and fired is just fiction.
We have to find out how they moved from the sidewalk to the grass. Was Trayvon punching him to keep him from getting his gun, holding his gun hand with one hand and belting his face with the other? Is that why he was screaming, afraid that he might eventually lose control of that gun hand? Were they taking turns being on top punching, as they rolled over and over into the grass?
I used to admire Piers Mnorgan, but liistneing to his opinions regarding the Trayvon Martin case, I am beignning to hate him. He is totally biased with his own fantasy about what might have ahppened the night Traayvon was shot. Robert Zimmerman is extremely articulate and objective. What he says about waiting for fthe facts to come out is correct.
Zimmerman is facing a lynch mob, and like all such mobs they are unreasonable and irrational. CNN needs to get someone better than Morgan for that job.
Face it, Zimmerman is a Criminal.
I very much enjoyed this post. I think after this seetsmer is out and I have time to read things outside of textbooks again, that I'll pick this up. Thank for the recommendation. My personal opinion is that even if this isn't a race case, it is a great time to be having these discussions as a country. No problem disappears that fast. And my own father grew up being bused into white schools and he's in his forties. I think a lot of people want to act like this was hundreds of years ago. But instead, it was barely yesterday. And yes, we should celebrate that we've come so far but we can't be so naive as to think it is all gone. Wonderful post!
That Robert Zimmerman Jr. and his brother George are HOT !!! They both get my vote on looks alone.
I need to be picked for that jury.
You Really Need Glasses, and clearly have no morals and values.
You are Immoral, Very Immoral.
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All everyone has to do is Google Frank Taffe who is George Zimmerman's biggest supporter to get the facts. All Taffe has to do is keep talking he'll just keep putting his foot in his mouth. And not only shows That Robert Zimmerman Sr.,and Robert Zimmerman Jr..are so full of themselves one lie afer another..It will all come out..
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